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	<title>Comments on: Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle</title>
	<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/</link>
	<description>belarusian perspectives - the two sides of one blogger</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Hard To Find Reason</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-198101</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-198101</guid>
					<description>100% s.g. Weissrussischen verstehen (90% sprechen) Russisch. Etwa 1% hoeren Deutsche Welle.</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Sharp</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-48214</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-48214</guid>
					<description>I'm not belive</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: bloggnjus</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-176</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-176</guid>
					<description>Maybe it would be interesting to know that NOT all people speak the same german, for example there is even a wikipedia in alemannisch (which is widely spoken in siwtzerland and south germany http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/ and plattdüütsch http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/ as spoken in northern germany. Plattdeutsch really is pretty close to &quot;standard&quot;-german. btw dutch is also spoken in belgium (a bilinugal country), maybe you do a little research before publishing something about &quot;white-holland&quot;.

Also note that we even have schools were sorbian http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B8 is officially taught. i guess the only way to do something in favor for the belarussian language would be to really actively distribute literature and other material online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Maybe it would be interesting to know that NOT all people speak the same german, for example there is even a wikipedia in alemannisch (which is widely spoken in siwtzerland and south germany <a href='http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/' rel='nofollow'>http://als.wikipedia.org/wiki/</a> and plattdüütsch <a href='http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/' rel='nofollow'>http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/</a> as spoken in northern germany. Plattdeutsch really is pretty close to &#8220;standard&#8221;-german. btw dutch is also spoken in belgium (a bilinugal country), maybe you do a little research before publishing something about &#8220;white-holland&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Also note that we even have schools were sorbian <a href='http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B8' rel='nofollow'>http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%8F%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA%D0%B8</a> is officially taught. i guess the only way to do something in favor for the belarussian language would be to really actively distribute literature and other material online.
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-59</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-59</guid>
					<description>And one more reaction to this publication in tageszeitung:

* http://www.jungle-world.com/seiten/2005/42/6466.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>And one more reaction to this publication in tageszeitung:</p>
	<p>* <a href='http://www.jungle-world.com/seiten/2005/42/6466.php' rel='nofollow'>http://www.jungle-world.com/seiten/2005/42/6466.php</a>
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-58</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-58</guid>
					<description>An official answer from Deutsche Welle foreign language director, to this publication:

* http://www.taz.de/pt/2005/10/22/a0196.nf/text.ges,1

&quot;Dieser Artikel ist einseitig und enthält falsche Akzentsetzungen.

Für uns waren die Inhalte der Radiosendung stets wichtiger als die Sprache - das Problem &quot;Weißrussisch oder Russisch&quot; wurde jedoch in polemischer Art und Weise von bestimmten Gruppierungen hochgespielt, noch bevor irgendetwas zu Themen und Zielrichtung des Programms bekannt wurde. Dass die Deutsche Welle von der EU-Kommission Fördergelder bekommen hat, spricht für unser Projekt und nicht dagegen. Wer die russische Sendesprache gleichsetzt mit Russland bzw. der russischen Regierung, wer uns unterstellt, wir machten uns zum Werkzeug einer Russifizierungspolitik von Präsident Lukaschenko, der argumentiert bewusst böswillig. Russisch ist keineswegs lediglich Besatzersprache in Belarus, sondern wird von einer Mehrheit der Menschen verstanden, gesprochen und auch im täglichen Leben gebraucht. Wir ignorieren auch keineswegs, dass es Bestrebungen im Lande gibt, die weißrussische Sprache zu fördern - dies freilich ist Aufgabe der in Belarus lebenden Menschen und ihrer Organisationen. Wir nehmen insofern auf diese Entwicklungen Rücksicht, als wir unseren Internetauftritt zweisprachig (Russisch und Weißrussisch) halten werden. Für die Zukunft schließen wir keineswegs die Aufnahme weiterer weißrussischsprachiger Elemente auch in unsere Radiosendung aus. Wer angesichts dieser Dinge weiter von &quot;mangelndem Respekt der deutschen Seite&quot; spricht, handelt bewusst fahrlässig.

Wir meinen, die Menschen in Belarus haben ein Recht auf freie, unzensierte Informationen und eine eigene Meinungsbildung. Die Deutsche Welle möchte dazu einen Beitrag leisten. Sie wird dies mit einem professionell gemachten und pluralistischen Programm tun.

MIODRAG SORIC, Chefredakteur Fremdsprachen&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>An official answer from Deutsche Welle foreign language director, to this publication:</p>
	<p>* <a href='http://www.taz.de/pt/2005/10/22/a0196.nf/text.ges,1' rel='nofollow'>http://www.taz.de/pt/2005/10/22/a0196.nf/text.ges,1</a></p>
	<p>&#8220;Dieser Artikel ist einseitig und enthält falsche Akzentsetzungen.</p>
	<p>Für uns waren die Inhalte der Radiosendung stets wichtiger als die Sprache - das Problem &#8220;Weißrussisch oder Russisch&#8221; wurde jedoch in polemischer Art und Weise von bestimmten Gruppierungen hochgespielt, noch bevor irgendetwas zu Themen und Zielrichtung des Programms bekannt wurde. Dass die Deutsche Welle von der EU-Kommission Fördergelder bekommen hat, spricht für unser Projekt und nicht dagegen. Wer die russische Sendesprache gleichsetzt mit Russland bzw. der russischen Regierung, wer uns unterstellt, wir machten uns zum Werkzeug einer Russifizierungspolitik von Präsident Lukaschenko, der argumentiert bewusst böswillig. Russisch ist keineswegs lediglich Besatzersprache in Belarus, sondern wird von einer Mehrheit der Menschen verstanden, gesprochen und auch im täglichen Leben gebraucht. Wir ignorieren auch keineswegs, dass es Bestrebungen im Lande gibt, die weißrussische Sprache zu fördern - dies freilich ist Aufgabe der in Belarus lebenden Menschen und ihrer Organisationen. Wir nehmen insofern auf diese Entwicklungen Rücksicht, als wir unseren Internetauftritt zweisprachig (Russisch und Weißrussisch) halten werden. Für die Zukunft schließen wir keineswegs die Aufnahme weiterer weißrussischsprachiger Elemente auch in unsere Radiosendung aus. Wer angesichts dieser Dinge weiter von &#8220;mangelndem Respekt der deutschen Seite&#8221; spricht, handelt bewusst fahrlässig.</p>
	<p>Wir meinen, die Menschen in Belarus haben ein Recht auf freie, unzensierte Informationen und eine eigene Meinungsbildung. Die Deutsche Welle möchte dazu einen Beitrag leisten. Sie wird dies mit einem professionell gemachten und pluralistischen Programm tun.</p>
	<p>MIODRAG SORIC, Chefredakteur Fremdsprachen&#8221;
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: }T{Reme [Q_G]</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-24</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-24</guid>
					<description>&quot;Well, either they’re biased, or just culturally ignorant&quot;

I think its both, ericn613 :) Or atleast, thats my observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Well, either they’re biased, or just culturally ignorant&#8221;</p>
	<p>I think its both, ericn613 :) Or atleast, thats my observation.
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-23</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-23</guid>
					<description>Btw, here's a mugshot of Vladimir Dorokhov that I've found on the 'net (because I got curious how that guy looks):

&lt;a href=&quot;http://baj.ru/Abajur/2830/foto/dorahau.jpg&quot;&gt;http://baj.ru/Abajur/2830/foto/dorahau.jpg&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Btw, here&#8217;s a mugshot of Vladimir Dorokhov that I&#8217;ve found on the &#8216;net (because I got curious how that guy looks):</p>
	<p><a href="http://baj.ru/Abajur/2830/foto/dorahau.jpg"><a href='http://baj.ru/Abajur/2830/foto/dorahau.jpg' rel='nofollow'>http://baj.ru/Abajur/2830/foto/dorahau.jpg</a></a>
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: ericn613</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-22</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-22</guid>
					<description>*bangs head repeatedly on desk*

I guess some people just don't get it.  What would happen if they started broadcasting a &quot;Free Tibet&quot; program, but only in Mandarin Chinese?  Or a Pro-Basque broadcast, but only in Spanish?  It would be completely ridiculous, and so is broadcasting an opposition broadcast to Belarus in Russian.  Totally inept and stupid.  But sometimes people don't understand the power of language, even though it is one of the most powerful instruments in this world.

I must admit, over the last several months, I have been reevaluating how &quot;unbiased&quot; I view Deutsche Welle.  Well, either they're biased, or just culturally ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>*bangs head repeatedly on desk*</p>
	<p>I guess some people just don&#8217;t get it.  What would happen if they started broadcasting a &#8220;Free Tibet&#8221; program, but only in Mandarin Chinese?  Or a Pro-Basque broadcast, but only in Spanish?  It would be completely ridiculous, and so is broadcasting an opposition broadcast to Belarus in Russian.  Totally inept and stupid.  But sometimes people don&#8217;t understand the power of language, even though it is one of the most powerful instruments in this world.</p>
	<p>I must admit, over the last several months, I have been reevaluating how &#8220;unbiased&#8221; I view Deutsche Welle.  Well, either they&#8217;re biased, or just culturally ignorant.
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-21</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-21</guid>
					<description>&quot;Lol.. apparently Ive missed something&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.br23.net/en/2005/08/29/hello-world-2/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hello World Two&lt;/a&gt; ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Lol.. apparently Ive missed something&#8221;</p>
	<p><a href="http://www.br23.net/en/2005/08/29/hello-world-2/#comments" rel="nofollow">Hello World Two</a> ;)
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		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-20</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-20</guid>
					<description>Lol.. apparently Ive missed something else, one of the comments reads &quot;Hi Rydel! I’ve benefited from your translated entries from the livejournal days&quot;. Is this your new blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lol.. apparently Ive missed something else, one of the comments reads &#8220;Hi Rydel! I’ve benefited from your translated entries from the livejournal days&#8221;. Is this your new blog?
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		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-19</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-19</guid>
					<description>Ah I see... thanks for clarification. Well I decided to register as I really wanted to comment on that entry. Perhaps more people will do so from now on? I'll try to comment more often if you wish.

Its interesting I think to note that this site was suggested to me by rydel23 (the author of the White Holland link you posted earlier), whom closed his LJ blog due to various threats from people. His blog got a little _too_ well known I think, do hope yours wont suffer from the same fate.

Occasionally I also cross-post topics from a few blogs, including yours. (With the original author name of course) Hope you dont mind :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ah I see&#8230; thanks for clarification. Well I decided to register as I really wanted to comment on that entry. Perhaps more people will do so from now on? I&#8217;ll try to comment more often if you wish.</p>
	<p>Its interesting I think to note that this site was suggested to me by rydel23 (the author of the White Holland link you posted earlier), whom closed his LJ blog due to various threats from people. His blog got a little _too_ well known I think, do hope yours wont suffer from the same fate.</p>
	<p>Occasionally I also cross-post topics from a few blogs, including yours. (With the original author name of course) Hope you dont mind :)
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-18</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-18</guid>
					<description>&lt;b&gt;}T{Reme [Q_G]&lt;/b&gt;, I think I got comments to two other entries:

* http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/03/new-orleans/#comments
* http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/01/meta-translating-prohibited/#comments

The reasons for such low activity are pretty clear though. There are just about 30-40 readers of this blog as of now (as opposed to that other one which had 400-500 readers), and, besides, I created an additional “entry bareer” by requiring users to register. So thanks for jumping over that barrier and joining in. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>}T{Reme [Q_G]</b>, I think I got comments to two other entries:</p>
	<p>* <a href='http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/03/new-orleans/#comments' rel='nofollow'>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/03/new-orleans/#comments</a><br />
* <a href='http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/01/meta-translating-prohibited/#comments' rel='nofollow'>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/01/meta-translating-prohibited/#comments</a></p>
	<p>The reasons for such low activity are pretty clear though. There are just about 30-40 readers of this blog as of now (as opposed to that other one which had 400-500 readers), and, besides, I created an additional “entry bareer” by requiring users to register. So thanks for jumping over that barrier and joining in. ;)
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 		<title>Comment on Tageszeitung: about Belarus &#038;&#038; Deutsche Welle by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-15</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-15</guid>
					<description>Thanks for your comment. :)

That guy's name is Dorokhov (Dorohov?). He's Russian-speaking, a part of Russian culture, it's just he happens to be a journalist, and against Lukashenka.

Here's what he wrote about Deutsche Welle in BDG, a Russian-language opposition newspaper:

http://bdg.press.net.by/2005/08/2005_08_12.1550/1550_4_2.shtml

&quot;When I told one Western journalist about this protest with Deutsche Welle language choice, he just said: &quot;it is so provincial!&quot; And now the tone of those protesters is getting more and more hysterical. It's obvious the fewer arguments they have, the more hysterical they become.&quot;

I translated only the first paragraph (partially), but I guess that's enough, you are getting the picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for your comment. :)</p>
	<p>That guy&#8217;s name is Dorokhov (Dorohov?). He&#8217;s Russian-speaking, a part of Russian culture, it&#8217;s just he happens to be a journalist, and against Lukashenka.</p>
	<p>Here&#8217;s what he wrote about Deutsche Welle in BDG, a Russian-language opposition newspaper:</p>
	<p><a href='http://bdg.press.net.by/2005/08/2005_08_12.1550/1550_4_2.shtml' rel='nofollow'>http://bdg.press.net.by/2005/08/2005_08_12.1550/1550_4_2.shtml</a></p>
	<p>&#8220;When I told one Western journalist about this protest with Deutsche Welle language choice, he just said: &#8220;it is so provincial!&#8221; And now the tone of those protesters is getting more and more hysterical. It&#8217;s obvious the fewer arguments they have, the more hysterical they become.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I translated only the first paragraph (partially), but I guess that&#8217;s enough, you are getting the picture?
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		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2005/09/21/tageszeitung-about-belarus-deutsche-welle/#comment-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 21:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I havent seen any comment on any blog entry yet so perhaps I will start a trend? In any case... I wanted to comment on &quot;an opposition journalist from Belarus that hates Belarusian language (and does not even know it, of course).&quot; It puzzles me how someone from the opposition, can hate the language which he/she is trying to preserve. Or do you point out this way that by taking that job, he/she therefore hates Belarusian language? (On which&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I havent seen any comment on any blog entry yet so perhaps I will start a trend? In any case&#8230; I wanted to comment on &#8220;an opposition journalist from Belarus that hates Belarusian language (and does not even know it, of course).&#8221; It puzzles me how someone from the opposition, can hate the language which he/she is trying to preserve. Or do you point out this way that by taking that job, he/she therefore hates Belarusian language? (On which<i></i>
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