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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: temporary pedestrian fence</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-640327</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The article is very useful! Highly recommended!</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: ray bans</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-593788</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 03:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 05:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-557107</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 06:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: AlexM</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-294252</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I found your site on technorati and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-755</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>bastards, they (in ambassy) are always smiling and nice, but probably very likes to live in Prague, too much.</description>
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Tobias Ljungvall</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-711</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think we both got it right, actually. The question is whether we want to speculate about how the unknown 30 percent voted. I think we should.

Here is part of the Radio Liberty article:

Магчыма, у апытаньні “Лявада-цэнтру” траціна апытаных адказала, што прагаласавала за Лукашэнку, 20% – што прагаласавалі за Мілінкевіча, 30%, як паведаміў спадар Гражданкін, адмовіліся адказваць, які выбар яны зрабілі. Калі гэтыя 30% адкінуць, то 33% за Лукашэнку як раз і ператвараюцца ў 47%, а 20% за Мілінкевіча – у 30%. Але гэтае адкіданьне сапраўды некарэктнае – гэтыя 30%, што адмовіліся адказваць – гэта “чорная скрыня”, калі усе яны былі за Лукашэнку, то ён атрымаў за 60%, калі скажам, усе за Мілінкевіча, то ён атрымаў 50%, Але як насамрэч разьмеркаваліся галасы, хто адмовіўся адказваць, невядома. Менавіта пра гэтую няпэўнасьць, відаць, і казаў намесьнік кіраўніка “Лявада-цэнтру”.

Source: http://www.svaboda.org/articlesfeatures/politics/2006/3/888C6F0B-49D1-4C55-A46F-48D3880E4BDF.html

It seems to me that Yuri Drakakhrust, who wrote the article, may be thinking along the same lines as I am.

As for the embassy voting in 2004, we tried to get the official figures from Minsk and not from the embassy. The latter distributed a result (which corresponded well enough to our polling result) to an emigré Russian website in Sweden, but there was no way of checking whether those same figures were reported to or used in Minsk.

/Tobias</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think we both got it right, actually. The question is whether we want to speculate about how the unknown 30 percent voted. I think we should.</p>
	<p>Here is part of the Radio Liberty article:</p>
	<p>Магчыма, у апытаньні “Лявада-цэнтру” траціна апытаных адказала, што прагаласавала за Лукашэнку, 20% – што прагаласавалі за Мілінкевіча, 30%, як паведаміў спадар Гражданкін, адмовіліся адказваць, які выбар яны зрабілі. Калі гэтыя 30% адкінуць, то 33% за Лукашэнку як раз і ператвараюцца ў 47%, а 20% за Мілінкевіча – у 30%. Але гэтае адкіданьне сапраўды некарэктнае – гэтыя 30%, што адмовіліся адказваць – гэта “чорная скрыня”, калі усе яны былі за Лукашэнку, то ён атрымаў за 60%, калі скажам, усе за Мілінкевіча, то ён атрымаў 50%, Але як насамрэч разьмеркаваліся галасы, хто адмовіўся адказваць, невядома. Менавіта пра гэтую няпэўнасьць, відаць, і казаў намесьнік кіраўніка “Лявада-цэнтру”.</p>
	<p>Source: <a href='http://www.svaboda.org/articlesfeatures/politics/2006/3/888C6F0B-49D1-4C55-A46F-48D3880E4BDF.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.svaboda.org/articlesfeatures/politics/2006/3/888C6F0B-49D1-4C55-A46F-48D3880E4BDF.html</a></p>
	<p>It seems to me that Yuri Drakakhrust, who wrote the article, may be thinking along the same lines as I am.</p>
	<p>As for the embassy voting in 2004, we tried to get the official figures from Minsk and not from the embassy. The latter distributed a result (which corresponded well enough to our polling result) to an emigré Russian website in Sweden, but there was no way of checking whether those same figures were reported to or used in Minsk.</p>
	<p>/Tobias
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-709</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi &lt;b&gt;Tobias&lt;/b&gt;: 

&amp;#62; How did you get the official results from the embassies? 

I don't know. Some of my friends took part in this project, but I don't know the details.

I have a file with exit polls results from 5-6 locations (Brussels, NYC, DC, Warsaw, Prague,...).

Actually, in most embassies they refused to reveal the data (I wonder if they were breaking the law by hiding the results?)

&amp;#62; Although my Belarusian is a bit weak, I gathered that 30 percent of respondents had refused to answer. 20 percent said they voted for Milinkevich and 33 percent for Lukashenko.

You got it a bit wrong.

30 percent refused to answer. But among those who AGREED to answer, the results were:

&lt;b&gt;47% - Lukashenka
30% - Milinkevich&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi <b>Tobias</b>: </p>
	<p>&gt; How did you get the official results from the embassies? </p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know. Some of my friends took part in this project, but I don&#8217;t know the details.</p>
	<p>I have a file with exit polls results from 5-6 locations (Brussels, NYC, DC, Warsaw, Prague,&#8230;).</p>
	<p>Actually, in most embassies they refused to reveal the data (I wonder if they were breaking the law by hiding the results?)</p>
	<p>&gt; Although my Belarusian is a bit weak, I gathered that 30 percent of respondents had refused to answer. 20 percent said they voted for Milinkevich and 33 percent for Lukashenko.</p>
	<p>You got it a bit wrong.</p>
	<p>30 percent refused to answer. But among those who AGREED to answer, the results were:</p>
	<p><b>47% - Lukashenka<br />
30% - Milinkevich</b>
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Tobias Ljungvall</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-708</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How did you get the official results from the embassies? In 2004 an exit poll of the referendum and parliamentary elections was conducted at the Belarusian embassy in Sweden, but the official figures were then kept secret in Minsk.

On Radio Liberty's website I read an interesting article about the Levada Centre's telephone poll conducted on election day in Belarus. Although my Belarusian is a bit weak, I gathered that 30 percent of respondents had refused to answer. 20 percent said they voted for Milinkevich and 33 percent for Lukashenko.

Do you trust these figures, and would you agree that it is plausible that most people who refused to answer voted for a candidate other than Lukashenko? If so, the real results could be rather even between Milinkevich and Lukashenko, or at least betwen Milinkevich plus Kozulin on one hand and Lukashenko on the other hand.

Regards,
Tobias Ljungvall

PS. Thanks for that document you sent me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>How did you get the official results from the embassies? In 2004 an exit poll of the referendum and parliamentary elections was conducted at the Belarusian embassy in Sweden, but the official figures were then kept secret in Minsk.</p>
	<p>On Radio Liberty&#8217;s website I read an interesting article about the Levada Centre&#8217;s telephone poll conducted on election day in Belarus. Although my Belarusian is a bit weak, I gathered that 30 percent of respondents had refused to answer. 20 percent said they voted for Milinkevich and 33 percent for Lukashenko.</p>
	<p>Do you trust these figures, and would you agree that it is plausible that most people who refused to answer voted for a candidate other than Lukashenko? If so, the real results could be rather even between Milinkevich and Lukashenko, or at least betwen Milinkevich plus Kozulin on one hand and Lukashenko on the other hand.</p>
	<p>Regards,<br />
Tobias Ljungvall</p>
	<p>PS. Thanks for that document you sent me.
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Syarzhuk</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-706</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Embassy in NYC also falsified the results.
Exit poll results:
Hajdukevicz – 0
Kazulin – 10
Lukaszenka – 25
Milinkevicz – 84
Against all – 6 (+1, that wrote in &quot;Pazniak&quot;).
Refused to answer – 49

Official numbers:
Hajdukevicz – 2
Kazulin – 8
Lukaszenka – 158
Milinkevicz - 53
Against all – 7
Invalid bulletins - 7

(data taken from http://wolny.livejournal.com/228243.html )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Embassy in NYC also falsified the results.<br />
Exit poll results:<br />
Hajdukevicz – 0<br />
Kazulin – 10<br />
Lukaszenka – 25<br />
Milinkevicz – 84<br />
Against all – 6 (+1, that wrote in &#8220;Pazniak&#8221;).<br />
Refused to answer – 49</p>
	<p>Official numbers:<br />
Hajdukevicz – 2<br />
Kazulin – 8<br />
Lukaszenka – 158<br />
Milinkevicz - 53<br />
Against all – 7<br />
Invalid bulletins - 7</p>
	<p>(data taken from <a href='http://wolny.livejournal.com/228243.html' rel='nofollow'>http://wolny.livejournal.com/228243.html</a> )
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-701</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;b&gt;Conrad&lt;/b&gt;: I did not make any such claims about it being &quot;representative&quot; anywhere. The point here is that the official results have nothing to do with actual votes, at least in our embassy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>Conrad</b>: I did not make any such claims about it being &#8220;representative&#8221; anywhere. The point here is that the official results have nothing to do with actual votes, at least in our embassy.
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 		<title>Comment on Exit Polls Abroad by: Conrad</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/03/23/exit-polls-abroad/#comment-700</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Even more doubtful than anything stated above is the assumption than citizen living abroad would show the same electoral behaviour as the majority living in Belarus; completely neglecting the effect of the official information policy is a ridiculous approach of counter-propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Even more doubtful than anything stated above is the assumption than citizen living abroad would show the same electoral behaviour as the majority living in Belarus; completely neglecting the effect of the official information policy is a ridiculous approach of counter-propaganda.
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