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	<title>Comments on: English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus</title>
	<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/</link>
	<description>belarusian perspectives - the two sides of one blogger</description>
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Vesstreaskkab</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-224667</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-224667</guid>
					<description>I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Doodee</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-208156</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-208156</guid>
					<description>Thanks for sharing</description>
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: DikeJepeSeple</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-193637</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 06:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-193637</guid>
					<description>Hi, 
 
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We discovered a gret service which tracks prices for you and alerts youl. 
 
Check out our latest review at: 
 
http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/12/apnoticom-review.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi, </p>
	<p>ever wondered how to get better Amazon deals or how to get that 30-day refund from Amazon? </p>
	<p>We discovered a gret service which tracks prices for you and alerts youl. </p>
	<p>Check out our latest review at: </p>
	<p><a href='http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/12/apnoticom-review.html' rel='nofollow'>http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/12/apnoticom-review.html</a>
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: DikeJepeSeple</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-187147</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-187147</guid>
					<description>Hi, 
 
I just found the blog: 
 
http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/11/amazon-price-drop-more-than-44-and-i.html 
 
There is an amazing how-to for changing the amazon price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi, </p>
	<p>I just found the blog: </p>
	<p><a href='http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/11/amazon-price-drop-more-than-44-and-i.html' rel='nofollow'>http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/11/amazon-price-drop-more-than-44-and-i.html</a> </p>
	<p>There is an amazing how-to for changing the amazon price.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: DikeJepeSeple</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-186303</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-186303</guid>
					<description>I just found a blog that links to secret amazon.com web pages 
 
Enter the Secret Amazon Web Pages: 
 
http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-find-bargains-at-amazons-secret.html 
[url=http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-find-bargains-at-amazons-secret.html]Bargains Hunter[/url] 
 
This is where you’re going to find the &quot;latest sales, rebates, and limited-time offers&quot; from 
Amazon, and you can score some pretty deep discounts if you’re a savvy shopper. 
 
Next, there’s the special Sale link. This is open every Friday, and ONLY on Fridays. 
 
You can find the same good discounts here as you would in hidden Deals, although some 
Fridays you can really get lucky and make off like an Amazon bandit - I’ve seen discounts 
there as low as 75% off sticker price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I just found a blog that links to secret amazon.com web pages </p>
	<p>Enter the Secret Amazon Web Pages: </p>
	<p><a href='http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-find-bargains-at-amazons-secret.html' rel='nofollow'>http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-find-bargains-at-amazons-secret.html</a><br />
[url=http://bargains-hunter.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-find-bargains-at-amazons-secret.html]Bargains Hunter[/url] </p>
	<p>This is where you’re going to find the &#8220;latest sales, rebates, and limited-time offers&#8221; from<br />
Amazon, and you can score some pretty deep discounts if you’re a savvy shopper. </p>
	<p>Next, there’s the special Sale link. This is open every Friday, and ONLY on Fridays. </p>
	<p>You can find the same good discounts here as you would in hidden Deals, although some<br />
Fridays you can really get lucky and make off like an Amazon bandit - I’ve seen discounts<br />
there as low as 75% off sticker price.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Acouppach</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-181934</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-181934</guid>
					<description>A man is trying a very unusual way to propose to his girlfriend. He wants people to forward an email to as many people as possible and he hopes that it will eventually get to his girlfriend. Details here: http://www.proposal-to-mary.com 
 
Here is what he wants people to send by email: 
 
You could help me a lot to spread my proposal to Mary – it is important that it is distributed as widely as possible so that it eventually reaches Mary. If you would like to support my proposal to Mary, please send the following text by email to a lot of people :-) 
 
------------- SNIP (email text end) --------------- 
 
WHEN YOU RECEIVE THIS, PLEASE HELP TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE! 
 
For a long time I have tried to find a special way to propose marriage to my girlfriend Mary, whom I know for five years now. I wanted it very special, romantic and memorable, something our grandchildren would still remember. 
 
And here is my idea: I will send out the proposal to Mary to 50 complete strangers, people I don't know - hoping, that they will forward my proposal to as many people as possible, which in turn forward it etc. And some day, I hope, it will reach Mary, after it has travelled a very long way. I know, it will take a long time and I am quite nervous… 
 
From the poem MY Mary will know immediately that the proposal is for her. 
 
I have created a homepage ( http://www.proposal-to-mary.com ) where you can find the current status of my quest. You can use the homepage to check if the proposal has already reached Mary (in that case it is not necessary anymore to forward the mail). 
 
Once the proposal has reached Mary, I will put a note on these pages. Also I will publish there how many people have read the proposal so that everybody can see how far it has spread and that it is getting closer to Mary. 
 
And of course you will find there what I am waiting for most: Mary's answer! I can't tell you, how nervous I am… Will she accept my proposal? Will she like the unusual way how she got it, through the hands of thousands of messengers all over the world? 
 
Please cross your fingers for me! And please - help me by sending the mail to as many people as possible, to help it spread, so that it eventually reaches Mary. 
 
And here is my proposal: 
 
Mary, please forgive me, as you know English is not my native language. And I am not a poet. But I mean it from my heart. 
 
My angel, 
 
Five years ago, I will always remember the day When fate made us meet, blissful Alaskan moments in May Earth spun around us and a journey began Love, warmth, happiness, enough the years to span. 
 
The longer it lasts the more grows our bond And with 80 still - of you I will be fond Whatever happens, I will stay at your side Through good and bad, together let us stride 
 
No second with you was ever wasted 
You are the sweetest I have ever tasted 
We have spent so many years - why not a life? 
Mary, will you marry me - and become my wife? 
 
Mary, if you have received that and have recognized me, then give me a sign so that I can continue with the romantic part of my proposal… 
 
------------- SNIP (email text end) ---------------</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A man is trying a very unusual way to propose to his girlfriend. He wants people to forward an email to as many people as possible and he hopes that it will eventually get to his girlfriend. Details here: <a href='http://www.proposal-to-mary.com' rel='nofollow'>http://www.proposal-to-mary.com</a> </p>
	<p>Here is what he wants people to send by email: </p>
	<p>You could help me a lot to spread my proposal to Mary – it is important that it is distributed as widely as possible so that it eventually reaches Mary. If you would like to support my proposal to Mary, please send the following text by email to a lot of people :-) </p>
	<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- SNIP (email text end) &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; </p>
	<p>WHEN YOU RECEIVE THIS, PLEASE HELP TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE! </p>
	<p>For a long time I have tried to find a special way to propose marriage to my girlfriend Mary, whom I know for five years now. I wanted it very special, romantic and memorable, something our grandchildren would still remember. </p>
	<p>And here is my idea: I will send out the proposal to Mary to 50 complete strangers, people I don&#8217;t know - hoping, that they will forward my proposal to as many people as possible, which in turn forward it etc. And some day, I hope, it will reach Mary, after it has travelled a very long way. I know, it will take a long time and I am quite nervous… </p>
	<p>From the poem MY Mary will know immediately that the proposal is for her. </p>
	<p>I have created a homepage ( <a href='http://www.proposal-to-mary.com' rel='nofollow'>http://www.proposal-to-mary.com</a> ) where you can find the current status of my quest. You can use the homepage to check if the proposal has already reached Mary (in that case it is not necessary anymore to forward the mail). </p>
	<p>Once the proposal has reached Mary, I will put a note on these pages. Also I will publish there how many people have read the proposal so that everybody can see how far it has spread and that it is getting closer to Mary. </p>
	<p>And of course you will find there what I am waiting for most: Mary&#8217;s answer! I can&#8217;t tell you, how nervous I am… Will she accept my proposal? Will she like the unusual way how she got it, through the hands of thousands of messengers all over the world? </p>
	<p>Please cross your fingers for me! And please - help me by sending the mail to as many people as possible, to help it spread, so that it eventually reaches Mary. </p>
	<p>And here is my proposal: </p>
	<p>Mary, please forgive me, as you know English is not my native language. And I am not a poet. But I mean it from my heart. </p>
	<p>My angel, </p>
	<p>Five years ago, I will always remember the day When fate made us meet, blissful Alaskan moments in May Earth spun around us and a journey began Love, warmth, happiness, enough the years to span. </p>
	<p>The longer it lasts the more grows our bond And with 80 still - of you I will be fond Whatever happens, I will stay at your side Through good and bad, together let us stride </p>
	<p>No second with you was ever wasted<br />
You are the sweetest I have ever tasted<br />
We have spent so many years - why not a life?<br />
Mary, will you marry me - and become my wife? </p>
	<p>Mary, if you have received that and have recognized me, then give me a sign so that I can continue with the romantic part of my proposal… </p>
	<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- SNIP (email text end) &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Dmitry Sheiko</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-4405</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-4405</guid>
					<description>Oh! I agree completely!</description>
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Sharp&#38;Sound - &#187; Solving Wikipedia&#8217;s objectivity problem&#8211;at least, when it comes to history</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-4129</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 09:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-4129</guid>
					<description>[...] I only applaud this idea&amp;#8211;and think that it can somehow address the problems that arise with Wikipedia. I remember a post from BR23 about the history of Belarus-Russia relations and how the content was always changed due to Wikipedia wars&amp;#8230;Perhaps, the FT initiative can be a very sound mechanism for providing the objectivity what Wikipedia often fails to deliver. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] I only applaud this idea&#8211;and think that it can somehow address the problems that arise with Wikipedia. I remember a post from BR23 about the history of Belarus-Russia relations and how the content was always changed due to Wikipedia wars&#8230;Perhaps, the FT initiative can be a very sound mechanism for providing the objectivity what Wikipedia often fails to deliver. [&#8230;]
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Gardener</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2236</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2236</guid>
					<description>If you are Belarusian and have something to say to Western reader about Belarus - send it to The Virtual Guide to Belarus. No Russians will reach it there and it is on top of Wikipedia in Google :)

http://www.belarusguide.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you are Belarusian and have something to say to Western reader about Belarus - send it to The Virtual Guide to Belarus. No Russians will reach it there and it is on top of Wikipedia in Google :)</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.belarusguide.com' rel='nofollow'>http://www.belarusguide.com</a>
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Belarus: Wikipedia Edit Wars</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2149</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 09:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2149</guid>
					<description>[...] br23 blog writes about edit wars constantly taking place at Wikipedia&amp;#8217;s Belarusian history pages: &amp;#8220;This continuing butchering of the articles about Belarus by Russians on English Wikipedia also ruined my trust in the Wikipedia as a whole. Now, I have to confess, I don’t go to Wikipedia anymore to read about political or historical events, and only go to Wikipedia when I need to check something on natural sciences (biology, archeology, physics, math…)&amp;#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] br23 blog writes about edit wars constantly taking place at Wikipedia&#8217;s Belarusian history pages: &#8220;This continuing butchering of the articles about Belarus by Russians on English Wikipedia also ruined my trust in the Wikipedia as a whole. Now, I have to confess, I don’t go to Wikipedia anymore to read about political or historical events, and only go to Wikipedia when I need to check something on natural sciences (biology, archeology, physics, math…)&#8221; [&#8230;]
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: endrus</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2130</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2130</guid>
					<description>Well, you see, there you go! I guess their whole premise is inane. This is just a destructive argument. I greatly doubt they would post anything to that soviet-style wiki. Wikipedia is the community of enthusiasts. Now, have you seen a single (sic!) narkamauka user with explicitly pro-Soviet views who would care to do anything gratis for the Belarusian cause? Doubtly... Maybe it's just me being not too attentive. But I haven't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, you see, there you go! I guess their whole premise is inane. This is just a destructive argument. I greatly doubt they would post anything to that soviet-style wiki. Wikipedia is the community of enthusiasts. Now, have you seen a single (sic!) narkamauka user with explicitly pro-Soviet views who would care to do anything gratis for the Belarusian cause? Doubtly&#8230; Maybe it&#8217;s just me being not too attentive. But I haven&#8217;t.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2127</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2127</guid>
					<description>&lt;b&gt;endrus&lt;/b&gt;: I find it even more bizarre that the same guy named Trasianka Editor (a very telling username, btw) also proposes to open a separate West-Polessian Wikipedia (on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;same page&lt;/a&gt;). I wonder if the that &quot;Trasianka man&quot; could show us his own writings in this &quot;West-Polessian&quot; language and show us Web pages in that langauge...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>endrus</b>: I find it even more bizarre that the same guy named Trasianka Editor (a very telling username, btw) also proposes to open a separate West-Polessian Wikipedia (on the <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages" rel="nofollow">same page</a>). I wonder if the that &#8220;Trasianka man&#8221; could show us his own writings in this &#8220;West-Polessian&#8221; language and show us Web pages in that langauge&#8230;
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2126</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2126</guid>
					<description>&lt;b&gt;endrus&lt;/b&gt;: Thanks. I wrote this (my two cents ;)):

WEAK OPPOSE. I don’t have anything against Soviet spelling (narkamauka) per se, as long as we keep the politics out of it. And I don’t see a need for another Wikipedia version, because (1) the two spelling systems are very-very close. It's the same language, just the spelling rules are a little bit different; (2) Probably 99% of differences between the Classical and Soviet orthography can be automatically converted by a simple programming script (replacing soft signs, soft/hard l’s, e vs ie, etc.).

But even if the Wikipedia community decides to have a separate version for the Soviet spelling (which I find bizarre), I don't really oppose it that strongly, because it's still our language, it's just spelled a little bit differently in some cases. Let them spell that way, if they want to, though I find it a bit destructive that they want to do it in a separate Wikipedia (is it a political, not a linguistic decision?)

P.S. Frankly speaking, I'm much more concerned about the fact that certain Russian contributors on the English Wikipedia have been butchering Belarus-related articles on WP in the last year, deleting factual information and inserting pro-imperial, pro-Russian, pro-Soviet POV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>endrus</b>: Thanks. I wrote this (my two cents ;)):</p>
	<p>WEAK OPPOSE. I don’t have anything against Soviet spelling (narkamauka) per se, as long as we keep the politics out of it. And I don’t see a need for another Wikipedia version, because (1) the two spelling systems are very-very close. It&#8217;s the same language, just the spelling rules are a little bit different; (2) Probably 99% of differences between the Classical and Soviet orthography can be automatically converted by a simple programming script (replacing soft signs, soft/hard l’s, e vs ie, etc.).</p>
	<p>But even if the Wikipedia community decides to have a separate version for the Soviet spelling (which I find bizarre), I don&#8217;t really oppose it that strongly, because it&#8217;s still our language, it&#8217;s just spelled a little bit differently in some cases. Let them spell that way, if they want to, though I find it a bit destructive that they want to do it in a separate Wikipedia (is it a political, not a linguistic decision?)</p>
	<p>P.S. Frankly speaking, I&#8217;m much more concerned about the fact that certain Russian contributors on the English Wikipedia have been butchering Belarus-related articles on WP in the last year, deleting factual information and inserting pro-imperial, pro-Russian, pro-Soviet POV.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: aharoni</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2109</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2109</guid>
					<description>Don't give up to this шпана. They give Russia a bad name. Kuban Kazak doesn't represent anything.

Besides, if you can document stealth edits and prove them wrong, then it's a criminal offence. The &quot;counter vandalism unit&quot; in Hebrew Wikipedia weren't afraid to complain to the Israeli police about serial vandals. The only problem i can see here is that the EN WP is too big to notice such a small issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Don&#8217;t give up to this шпана. They give Russia a bad name. Kuban Kazak doesn&#8217;t represent anything.</p>
	<p>Besides, if you can document stealth edits and prove them wrong, then it&#8217;s a criminal offence. The &#8220;counter vandalism unit&#8221; in Hebrew Wikipedia weren&#8217;t afraid to complain to the Israeli police about serial vandals. The only problem i can see here is that the EN WP is too big to notice such a small issue
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: }T{Reme [Q_G]</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2107</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 07:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2107</guid>
					<description>This comment isnt much related to this article but more  on the link endrus posted.

I know too little of the Belarusian language(s?) to make sense of it... As far as I do understand.. is that it has been constantly overhauled and changed over decades... I remember somewhere that there are no fixed rules or guidelines for writing Belarusian... may be wrong... its a long time ago. Russification indeed plays a large role in the whole thing. There's quite a heated discussion on that link. I dunno but would it be feasible to set up a meeting with everyone contributing to the Belarusian wiki page as well with a number of linguists from all the various forms... Not to cast votes or anything.. but more to work out a version of Belarusian that everyone is comfortable with. Please correct me if im wrong... to me it seems like the language itself has become fragmented... and everyone decided to stick with one fragment or another etc etc... Just like my sister a long time ago said you (br32) write bad Belarusian... It's strange for me as you both speak the same language. Some on that page speak about reviving the language... what about repairing what's left of it, documenting it and setting it as an official standard? Or am I going too far? I dont know if anyone has dont this before or if so, that it was successfull. Like I said... I know almost nothing so please dont take anything as offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This comment isnt much related to this article but more  on the link endrus posted.</p>
	<p>I know too little of the Belarusian language(s?) to make sense of it&#8230; As far as I do understand.. is that it has been constantly overhauled and changed over decades&#8230; I remember somewhere that there are no fixed rules or guidelines for writing Belarusian&#8230; may be wrong&#8230; its a long time ago. Russification indeed plays a large role in the whole thing. There&#8217;s quite a heated discussion on that link. I dunno but would it be feasible to set up a meeting with everyone contributing to the Belarusian wiki page as well with a number of linguists from all the various forms&#8230; Not to cast votes or anything.. but more to work out a version of Belarusian that everyone is comfortable with. Please correct me if im wrong&#8230; to me it seems like the language itself has become fragmented&#8230; and everyone decided to stick with one fragment or another etc etc&#8230; Just like my sister a long time ago said you (br32) write bad Belarusian&#8230; It&#8217;s strange for me as you both speak the same language. Some on that page speak about reviving the language&#8230; what about repairing what&#8217;s left of it, documenting it and setting it as an official standard? Or am I going too far? I dont know if anyone has dont this before or if so, that it was successfull. Like I said&#8230; I know almost nothing so please dont take anything as offensive.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: endrus</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2097</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 03:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, sure. &lt;a href=&quot;http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here it is.&lt;/a&gt; Scroll down to the &quot;Present Belarusian&quot; part, and you'll find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, sure. <a href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages" rel="nofollow">Here it is.</a> Scroll down to the &#8220;Present Belarusian&#8221; part, and you&#8217;ll find it.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2088</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2088</guid>
					<description>&lt;b&gt;Endrus&lt;/b&gt;: I don't have anything against narkamauka &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt;, as long as we keep the politics out of it. And I don't see a need for another Wikipedia version, because (1) the two spelling systems are very-very close; (2) Probably 99% of differences between the Classical and Soviet orthography can be done by an automatic converter such as a PHP script (replacing soft signs, soft/hard l's, e vs ie, etc.).

Can you provide the link to the discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><b>Endrus</b>: I don&#8217;t have anything against narkamauka <i>per se</i>, as long as we keep the politics out of it. And I don&#8217;t see a need for another Wikipedia version, because (1) the two spelling systems are very-very close; (2) Probably 99% of differences between the Classical and Soviet orthography can be done by an automatic converter such as a PHP script (replacing soft signs, soft/hard l&#8217;s, e vs ie, etc.).</p>
	<p>Can you provide the link to the discussion?
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: }T{Reme [Q_G]</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2086</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2086</guid>
					<description>Yes.. the inherent flaw of wikipedia is that just about anyone can change or add things... It might be possible to have the administrators lock the articles you are referring to br23...  to prevent others from ever changing them again. But I dont know if the people from wikipedia will grant such a request. Showing proof of misinformation by showing written facts may help.

Ive known for quite some time that various facts are being twisted and mangled or even erased... And Ive thought up a plan to index and preserve anything related to Belarus in a shielded database so only trusted people are allowed to change or add things. Unfortunately this plan is on the backburner as I havent had the time to program the advanced spider it would require :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes.. the inherent flaw of wikipedia is that just about anyone can change or add things&#8230; It might be possible to have the administrators lock the articles you are referring to br23&#8230;  to prevent others from ever changing them again. But I dont know if the people from wikipedia will grant such a request. Showing proof of misinformation by showing written facts may help.</p>
	<p>Ive known for quite some time that various facts are being twisted and mangled or even erased&#8230; And Ive thought up a plan to index and preserve anything related to Belarus in a shielded database so only trusted people are allowed to change or add things. Unfortunately this plan is on the backburner as I havent had the time to program the advanced spider it would require :(
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: endrus</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2084</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2084</guid>
					<description>It should be noted that some wienies expressed their zeal to launch a narkamauka (sovietized Belarusian language) wiki. There's a raunchy argument going on at the Wiki meta section, but it seems to me their real intention is to destroy what now exists. They wouldn't care to post anything, it's all because of their opposition to taraskievica, a traditional Belarusian spelling, and not out of a genuine intention to post anything to Wiki. Tell me if I'm wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It should be noted that some wienies expressed their zeal to launch a narkamauka (sovietized Belarusian language) wiki. There&#8217;s a raunchy argument going on at the Wiki meta section, but it seems to me their real intention is to destroy what now exists. They wouldn&#8217;t care to post anything, it&#8217;s all because of their opposition to taraskievica, a traditional Belarusian spelling, and not out of a genuine intention to post anything to Wiki. Tell me if I&#8217;m wrong.
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 		<title>Comment on English Wikipedia &#038;&#038; Belarus by: Hryshka</title>
		<link>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2080</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.br23.net/en/2006/04/29/english-wikipedia-belarus/#comment-2080</guid>
					<description>While Wikipedia is an interesting concept, I've found myself becoming increasingly wary about it because anybody, no matter how informed or uninformed about the topic at hand, can make entries into it (meaning what one is reading could be less scholarly, factual or authoritative than one would hope).  The POV flaming on Belarusian topics is especially conspicuous.  Take anything found on Wikipedia (or the Internet) with a grain of salt, and check it against other sources.  Like anything in life, it can be fun and even useful, but must be used with caution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While Wikipedia is an interesting concept, I&#8217;ve found myself becoming increasingly wary about it because anybody, no matter how informed or uninformed about the topic at hand, can make entries into it (meaning what one is reading could be less scholarly, factual or authoritative than one would hope).  The POV flaming on Belarusian topics is especially conspicuous.  Take anything found on Wikipedia (or the Internet) with a grain of salt, and check it against other sources.  Like anything in life, it can be fun and even useful, but must be used with caution.
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